• Open Source Sustainability (with Daniel Roe, Chad Whitacre & Rijk van Zanten)

  • Apr 6 2025
  • Length: 1 hr
  • Podcast

Open Source Sustainability (with Daniel Roe, Chad Whitacre & Rijk van Zanten)

  • Summary

  • Join hosts Michael Thiessen and Alexander Lichter for a special episode of DejaVue - a fascinating panel discussion on open source sustainability with three open source enthusiasts:

    • Daniel Roe (Nuxt Team Lead),
    • Chad Whitacre (Head of Open Source at Sentry), and
    • Rijk van Zanten (CTO and co-founder of Directus).


    The panelists dive deep into what sustainability truly means in open source and get deep into the weeds of different licensing models, debating whether open source functions as a gift economy, and discuss the challenges of project governance.


    The panel also discusses important questions about leadership structures in open source projects, the role of companies in funding development, and practical ways everyone can contribute to making the ecosystem more sustainable - whether financially or through other meaningful contributions.


    Enjoy the episode!


    Our Guests

    Daniel Roe - Nuxt Team Lead

    • Bluesky
    • Web

    Chad Whitacre - Head of Open Source at Sentry

    • Bluesky
    • Twitter
    • Web


    Rijk van Zanten - CTO and co-founder of Directus

    • Bluesky
    • Twitter
    • Web


    Chapters

    • (00:00) - Welcome to DejaVue
    • (04:06) - What is Open Source Sustainability
    • (12:51) - Open Source as a gift economy
    • (19:20) - The Projects and their Licenses
    • (29:50) - Sentry is not Open Source
    • (34:53) - Open Source Definition and OSI
    • (37:09) - Why people adopt open source software?
    • (39:44) - Open Source Governance
    • (47:50) - Stewarding an open source team
    • (52:22) - Open Source Leadership
    • (55:40) - What can YOU do to help open source?


    Links and Resources


    • Mastering Nuxt*
    • xkcd on standards
    • Jacob Kaplan-Moss: Paying Maintainers is Good
    • Sentry
    • Directus
    • Nuxt
    • BSL
    • Fair Source
    • MIT
    • AGPL
    • OSI
    • BDFL
    • Nuxt Governance
    • Open Source Steward in the CRA
    • Daniel Roe: Contributing to Nuxt
    • Open Source Pledge


    Your Hosts

    Alexander Lichter

    • Bluesky
    • YouTube
    • Website


    Michael Thiessen

    • Twitter
    • YouTube
    • Website


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