DejaVue

By: Alexander Lichter & Michael Thiessen
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  • Welcome to DejaVue, the Vue podcast you didn't know you needed until now! Join Michael Thiessen and Alexander Lichter on a thrilling journey through the world of Vue and Nuxt. Get ready for weekly episodes packed with insights, updates, and deep dives into everything Vue-related. From component libraries to best practices, and beyond, they've got you covered.
    © 2025 Alexander Lichter & Michael Thiessen
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  • Snapshot Testing and Beyond (with The Jared Wilcurt)

    Snapshot Testing and Beyond (with The Jared Wilcurt)
    Apr 22 2025

    In this episode of DejaVue, Alex and Michael are joined by Jared Wilcurt, UI architect and open source contributor, to get knee-deep into the world of testing in Vue.js, especially Snapshot Testing.


    Jared shares his journey from React frustration to Vue enthusiasm, and explains how he identified gaps in Vue's testing ecosystem that led to the creation of his Vue 3 Snapshot Serializer library.
    No matter if you are a testing novice, wondering why you should bother with tests at all, or an experienced developer looking to improve your snapshot testing workflow, this episode got something for you - from reducing test noise, improving readability, and gaining confidence in your Vue applications and components.


    Discover how snapshot testing complements traditional assertion-based tests and why it might be the missing piece in your testing strategy.


    Enjoy the episode!


    Our Guest

    The Jared Wilcurt

    • Vue 3 Snapshot Serializer
    • Website
    • Bluesky
    • Twitter

    Chapters

    • (00:00) - Welcome to DejaVue
    • (00:20) - How did you get into Programming?
    • (05:20) - Learning Vue
    • (09:46) - Finding gaps in the ecosystem
    • (12:40) - What is unit testing?
    • (21:40) - Testing in the frontend
    • (25:31) - Snapshot Testing
    • (29:45) - Snapshot Updating Fatigue
    • (36:09) - Responsibilities & ROI of a Snapshot Test
    • (42:46) - Using the Snapshot Serializer
    • (46:40) - Snapshot vs. Visual Regression Testing
    • (52:57) - A good tip from Daniel Roe
    • (53:50) - Further Noise Reduction
    • (01:01:22) - A tighter integration?
    • (01:05:11) - Wrapping up


    Links and Resources


    • Riot JS
    • Vue Indy Meetup
    • Vue Doxen
    • Old Jest Snapshot Serializer
    • Vue Test Utils
    • Testing Library Vue
    • Playwright
    • Vue 3 Snapshot Serializer
    • DejaVue #E043 - The Year in ReVue (with Daniel Roe)


    Your Hosts

    Michael Thiessen

    • Twitter
    • YouTube
    • Website


    Alexander Lichter

    • Bluesky
    • YouTube
    • Website


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    1 hr and 7 mins
  • e18e: Ecosystem Performance (with James Garbutt)

    e18e: Ecosystem Performance (with James Garbutt)
    Apr 13 2025
    In this episode of DejaVue, Alex sits down with James Garbutt, open source maintainer and lead of the e18e initiative. James shares his journey from writing web scrapers as a teenager to maintaining critical JavaScript libraries like parse5 or Chokidar and eventually co-creating the ecosystem performance initiative.The conversation is then all around e18e, which aims to improve performance across the JavaScript ecosystem through three pillars:Cleaning up dependency treesSpeeding up popular packagesCreating lighter alternatives to bloated librariesJames explains how the community-driven approach has produced impressive results all across the web development landscape.Learn about real-world examples of performance improvements, including replacement packages like tinyglobby and nano-staged, and discover how to contribute to e18e even if you're new to open source. James shares also insights on balancing between backward compatibility and performance, bundling dependencies, and also shares future plans for e18e in 2025.Enjoy the episode!Our GuestJames "43081j" Garbutte18eWebsiteBlueskyChapters(00:00) - Welcome to DejaVue (00:34) - Which libraries do you maintain? (02:10) - How did you get into programming? (04:57) - What lead you to Vue.js (06:40) - Not ending up in a framework bubble (09:41) - Meta frameworks converging (11:28) - What is e18e? (15:40) - The purpose of e18e (18:27) - How to participate? (20:38) - Are there prerequisites? (23:59) - Ripple effects from e18e improving the ecosystem (26:36) - Helping other projects migrate (30:27) - Considering backwards compatibility (35:50) - Example for replacement packages (37:56) - tinyglobby (40:40) - Edge cases and modular architecture (43:49) - Performance pattern and anti pattern (45:32) - Bundling dependencies (50:48) - What is planned for e18e in 2025? (56:39) - How do you lead and structure the e18e initiative? (01:01:42) - Anything else we didn't cover? (01:02:21) - Wrapping upLinks and ResourcesParse5Doom in TypeScriptFlappy Bird in TSLitElementSpeeding up the ecosystem blog post series by Marvin Hagemeistere18e issue overviewe18e Discordminizlib install size improvementsStorybook dependency tree reductione18e module replacement repositoryAnthony Fu's node_modules inspectorPublint by Bjorn LuUmbrella CLInano-staged (instead of lint-staged)npm-run-all2eslint-import-plugin-x (instead of eslint-plugin-import)tinyglobby (instead of any other glob lib like globby/fast-glob)fdirVite Devtools announcementBundling dependencies (and when not to do it)A lighter Nuxt CLIYour HostsAlexander LichterBlueskyYouTubeWebsite---Links marked with * are affiliate links. We get a small commission when you register for the service through our link. This helps us to keep the podcast running. We only include affiliate links for services mentioned in the episode or that we use ourselves.
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    1 hr and 3 mins
  • Open Source Sustainability (with Daniel Roe, Chad Whitacre & Rijk van Zanten)

    Open Source Sustainability (with Daniel Roe, Chad Whitacre & Rijk van Zanten)
    Apr 6 2025

    Join hosts Michael Thiessen and Alexander Lichter for a special episode of DejaVue - a fascinating panel discussion on open source sustainability with three open source enthusiasts:

    • Daniel Roe (Nuxt Team Lead),
    • Chad Whitacre (Head of Open Source at Sentry), and
    • Rijk van Zanten (CTO and co-founder of Directus).


    The panelists dive deep into what sustainability truly means in open source and get deep into the weeds of different licensing models, debating whether open source functions as a gift economy, and discuss the challenges of project governance.


    The panel also discusses important questions about leadership structures in open source projects, the role of companies in funding development, and practical ways everyone can contribute to making the ecosystem more sustainable - whether financially or through other meaningful contributions.


    Enjoy the episode!


    Our Guests

    Daniel Roe - Nuxt Team Lead

    • Bluesky
    • Web

    Chad Whitacre - Head of Open Source at Sentry

    • Bluesky
    • Twitter
    • Web


    Rijk van Zanten - CTO and co-founder of Directus

    • Bluesky
    • Twitter
    • Web


    Chapters

    • (00:00) - Welcome to DejaVue
    • (04:06) - What is Open Source Sustainability
    • (12:51) - Open Source as a gift economy
    • (19:20) - The Projects and their Licenses
    • (29:50) - Sentry is not Open Source
    • (34:53) - Open Source Definition and OSI
    • (37:09) - Why people adopt open source software?
    • (39:44) - Open Source Governance
    • (47:50) - Stewarding an open source team
    • (52:22) - Open Source Leadership
    • (55:40) - What can YOU do to help open source?


    Links and Resources


    • Mastering Nuxt*
    • xkcd on standards
    • Jacob Kaplan-Moss: Paying Maintainers is Good
    • Sentry
    • Directus
    • Nuxt
    • BSL
    • Fair Source
    • MIT
    • AGPL
    • OSI
    • BDFL
    • Nuxt Governance
    • Open Source Steward in the CRA
    • Daniel Roe: Contributing to Nuxt
    • Open Source Pledge


    Your Hosts

    Alexander Lichter

    • Bluesky
    • YouTube
    • Website


    Michael Thiessen

    • Twitter
    • YouTube
    • Website


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    1 hr

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