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Who Thought We'd Be Here?

Who Thought We'd Be Here?

By: Steven Aigner and John Pugh
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"Who Thought We'd Be Here" is a podcast about changing your mind, redefining the stigma around mental health, and living a vulnerable and productive lifestyle.

Both seeking answers from the Universe as they turned 30, co-hosts and longtime pals Steven Aigner and John Pugh found themselves improving in ways their younger and much more wild selves could have never seen coming. They began conquering and healing their past selves with unfamiliar mindfulness tools like meditation, yoga, breath-work, journaling, reading transformative books, and experimenting with mind expanding remedies.

Ignited by a passion to help others struggling with complex problems of their own and a desire to create a new narrative surrounding men's mental health in today's modern society, they created their first collaborative podcast "Who Thought We'd Be Here?" This podcast is all about exploring the boundless potential within ourselves, and to inspire each and every one of us to be fearless in our own unique human experience.

Their goal is to make mindfulness more accessible for folks all around the world, and express the genuine benefits of redesigning your life in a more thoughtful way.

We'd love for you to join us on this spiritual journey, as we try to shine a little light into what it really and truly means to be a good human in this Universe.

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A mental health podcast with two guys who never would have thought they'd be here podcasting. Hosted by Steven Aigner (@_itssteve__) & John Pugh (@jay_pugh).

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Episodes
  • How to Heal Your Trauma, Elevate Your Energy & Vibrate Higher w/ Herbalist Jess Kravit | EP065
    Jun 16 2025

    In this episode, we sit down with Jess Kravit, founder of Exalted Alchemy, to dive deep into the world of herbalism, natural wellness, entrepreneurship, and energetic healing. Jess breaks down what it really means to be a clinical herbalist in a modern world that’s both disconnected from nature and hungry for authenticity.

    From her journey with food-as-medicine and flower essences to the intentional, vibe-rich creation of her skincare, tinctures, and candles, Jess shares how she’s built a business that feels like an extension of self — and how she's learned to separate her identity from her brand. The conversation covers everything from garlic’s antiviral powers to the FDA's impact on herbalists, flower essence therapy, and the real energy behind making something by hand.

    00:00 – Intro & Meet Jess
    00:01:11 – The Reality of Running a Product-Based Business
    00:03:39 – Community & Entrepreneurial Friendships
    00:04:58 – Herbalism Origins: From Vegetarianism to Clinical Study
    00:07:03 – Toxic Skincare & Ingredient Awareness
    00:08:25 – Food Disconnection & the Pharma Parallel
    00:10:02 – Taste as Medicine: Why Capsules Aren’t Enough
    00:11:34 – Exalted Alchemy Product Overview
    00:13:03 – Skincare, Naming Products & Childhood Dreams
    00:16:05 – Developing Ritual Products & Specialty Collaborations
    00:17:36 – Top Go-To Herbs: Nettles, Elderberry & Garlic
    00:20:01 – Garlic Suppositories & Alternative Treatments
    00:21:27 – The Legal Limits of Herbalists
    00:24:01 – Herbalism Is Ancestral Memory
    00:25:21 – Customer Education & Skepticism
    00:28:18 – Product Matching for Mental Health
    00:31:11 – Flower Essences vs. Herbal Remedies
    00:34:10 – Saint John’s Wort & Nerve Support
    00:35:38 – Infusing Brand with Personality — and Separating from It
    00:38:25 – Vibes, Intention & Energy in Products
    00:41:15 – Making Tinctures, Face Oils & Energetic Skincare
    00:44:16 – Flower Essences: How They’re Made
    00:47:09 – Mental Health & Emotional Healing with Flower Essences
    00:54:04 – From Survival to Thriving with Plants
    00:58:11 – Live Demo: Grounding Spray Experience
    01:00:16 – Candle Rituals & Gemini Moon Energy

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    "Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh.

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    1 hr and 6 mins
  • Nick Spencer - How Jui-Jitsu Saved My Life and Plant Medicine killed my Ego
    May 25 2025

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    NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!

    "Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh.

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    1 hr and 50 mins
  • Bryce Eckwall - How to Conquer Your Overthinking & Build a 6 Figure Creative Business | EP063
    May 20 2025

    In this powerful and unfiltered episode, the hosts sit down with Bryce Eckwall, founder of Q29 Productions, for a deep conversation about the intersection of creativity, entrepreneurship, healing, and self-worth.

    The episode opens with a behind-the-scenes look at how real conversations are sparked—before the mics even turn on. The trio discusses the balance between structure and spontaneity in podcasting and how authenticity builds trust and connection. Bryce shares how podcasting became a gateway to deeper relationships and business opportunities, even calling it "the new business card" for entrepreneurs.

    What follows is a raw and inspiring story of transformation. Bryce recounts how a chance encounter with Daymond John of Shark Tank led to one of the most pivotal moments in his creative career. But the story goes far beyond that—it’s about the grind, the waiting, the follow-ups, and the quiet self-belief it takes to break through.

    The conversation deepens into themes of sobriety, addiction, and how the obsessive nature that once fueled destructive habits can be redirected into creative success. All three participants open up about their journeys with substance use, routine, anxiety, and overthinking—highlighting the mental toll that high-performance creative work can take.

    They explore the line between ego and intention in content creation. Is sharing your story self-promotion or service? How do creators navigate the blurred boundary between personal healing and public storytelling? Bryce speaks candidly about building his personal brand, facing criticism, and realizing that showing up consistently—and imperfectly—is often more valuable than going viral.

    As the conversation unfolds, topics range from:

    • Mindset, routines, and mental health
    • The power of storytelling in branding
    • Authenticity vs. clickbait in social media
    • Fear of failure in both business and personal relationships
    • How content creation becomes therapy

    The episode culminates in a powerful exchange on self-worth, vulnerability, and the pressure to be seen. The hosts also share personal reflections—on fatherhood, imposter syndrome, growth, and how podcasting has become a meaningful act of service in their own lives.

    Whether you're an entrepreneur, a creator, or someone navigating your own transformation, this episode is a reminder that behind every success is a story of struggle—and that your story is worth telling.

    Big thanks to Bryce ( https://www.instagram.com/brycewallll/ ) for both hosting us and joining us on this episode. Be sure to check out Bryce and the team at Q29 productions at their website:

    https://www.q29productions.com/

    and their instagram:

    https://www.instagram.com/q29video


    Join our exclusive community on GROUPED where you can find uncut episodes, messaging with your hosts, and early access to promotions

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    Join Whoop with our promotional code and get your first month free!

    https://join.whoop.com/us/en/Whothoughtwedbeherepod/

    Sign up for online therapy with our referral link.
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    Shout out to our favorite neighborhood screen printer JOKER INK https://www.jokerink.com/

    NEW EPISODES WEEKLY!

    "Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh.

    https://linktr.ee/whothoughtwedbeherepod

    Please Like, Follow, Share, and Enjoy!!!

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    1 hr and 50 mins
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