Episodes

  • The Inquiry: Lies & Cover-ups

    The Inquiry: Lies & Cover-ups
    Sep 27 2024
    Caroline and Liz are back with the latest from The Thirlwall Inquiry which is continuing to investigate how Lucy Letby was able to commit murder at the Countess of Chester Hospital. In this episode we hear the testimony from 8 parents who had babies on the neonatal unit. The same themes recur again and again. We hear how the families’ search for answers fell upon deaf ears. Many describe their regret at putting their trust in the hospital and its staff. They detail the hospital’s failure to disclose information they say was crucial in preventing more babies from being harmed and how, in some circumstances, this non-disclosure amounted to lies and concealment. We also learn more about the implied relationship Lucy Letby had with a married doctor that may point to a motive for the harm she caused. Follow us on instagram @thetrialpod Email us thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Whatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan, Emma Beggan, Evie Killip, Aiden James, Grace Clark, Michelle Lehane, Natalie Durkin, Sebastian Birtles Editor: Chelsey Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Executive Producer: Lucy Vallance A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. This episode contains some details that listeners could find distressing To get an exclusive NordVPN deal head to https://nordvpn.com/TheTrial to get an extra 4 months on the 2-year plan. There’s no risk with Nord’s 30-day money back guarantee. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    36 mins
  • The Inquiry: A Hunch Should Be Enough

    The Inquiry: A Hunch Should Be Enough
    Sep 20 2024
    Join Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull as they cover the latest evidence from the Thirlwall Inquiry, which is examining how Lucy Letby was able to commit murder whilst working at the Countess of Chester Hospital. In this episode we recount the experiences of the parents of five babies who were killed or harmed by the neonatal nurse through their first-hand testimony. We hear how they came to question her actions and behaviour, and learn more about how and when, they say the hospital fell short in safeguarding the children in its care. Follow us on instagram @thetrialpod Email us thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Whatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Editor: Chelsey Moore Voice Actors: Olivia Tarr, Hannah Veness and Rowan Polonski Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Executive Producer: Lucy Vallance A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. This episode contains some details that listeners could find distressing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    37 mins
  • The Inquiry: They Never Gave Up

    The Inquiry: They Never Gave Up
    Sep 18 2024
    In this episode we hear evidence from two mothers whose babies were murdered by Lucy Letby on the neonatal unit at the Countess of Chester Hospital. They detail a lack of disclosure and poor communication from the hospital. They confirm the consequences of the hospital managers’ delay in contacting the police and the lack of accountability felt at the time and ever since. Their distressing and emotive testimony lays bare how responsible many of the parents feel the Countess was in allowing Letby to harm their newborns and the devastating impact this has had on their lives. Follow us on instagram @thetrialpod Email us thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Whatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Editor: Buddy Peace Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Executive Producer: Lucy Vallance A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    27 mins
  • The Inquiry: They Should Be Ashamed

    The Inquiry: They Should Be Ashamed
    Sep 13 2024
    We are now at the end of the first week of the Thirlwall Inquiry set up to establish how Lucy Letby was able to get away with murdering babies on an NHS hospital ward for so long. Already damaging testimony has been delivered about how multiple attempts to raise the alarm went unheeded, and delays in calling in the police cost babies' lives. Why were managers slow to act? What action could or should the hospital have taken? And what urgently needs to change within our healthcare system to stop something similar ever happening again? Join Caroline and Liz as they bring you the very latest. Follow us on instagram @thetrialpod Email us thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Whatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Editor: Chelsey Moore Executive Producer: Lucy Vallance A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    45 mins
  • The Inquiry : Here We Are Again

    The Inquiry : Here We Are Again
    Sep 11 2024
    Following the trial and conviction of neonatal nurse Lucy Letby, The Thirlwall Inquiry has been set up to examine the events at the Countess of Chester Hospital that surrounded the murder and attempted murder of multiple babies. It began today, Tuesday 10th September 2024, at Liverpool Town Hall. In this episode Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull discuss the very first day of the hearing as the opening statements by chair, Lady Justice Thirlwall and counsel to the Inquiry, Rachel Langdale KC, are delivered to an emotionally charged chamber. Follow us on instagram @thetrialpod Email us thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Whatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Editor: Buddy Peace Executive Producer: Lucy Vallance A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    26 mins
  • The Inquiry: Addressing The Doubters

    The Inquiry: Addressing The Doubters
    Sep 6 2024
    As it’s revealed Lucy Letby has changed her legal team this special episode takes a look at what is causing rampant speculation amongst both experts and the general public that Lucy Letby’s conviction could have been ‘unsafe’. We speak to Professor Jane Hutton, who signed a letter calling for an extension to the scope of the Inquiry as she questions the statistical evidence that was provided in court. Liz and Caroline then go onto discuss Letby’s legal position with Tim Owen, KC, a barrister with a wealth of experience in returning cases to appeal. He offers a frank and precise analysis of the very limited options left open to the former nurse and her legal team. We then look ahead to the Inquiry—which commences on Tuesday 10th September—and the three key findings it will aim to establish. Follow us on instagram @thetrialpod Email us thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Guests: Professor Jane Hutton and Tim Owen, KC Producer: Caroline Cheetham Editor: Buddy Peace Executive Producer: Lucy Vallance A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    1 hr
  • Baby K: She was defenceless

    Baby K: She was defenceless
    Jul 5 2024
    In this episode Caroline and Liz bring you the heartwrenching words of Baby K’s mum who spoke in court about how Lucy Letby’s actions had devastated her family’s life. They also detail the remarks of Mr Justice Goss, as he sentenced Lucy Letby to another whole life term, and they discuss the reasons she tried and failed to appeal her convictions. Lucy Letby denies attempting to murder Baby K who was a tiny baby girl born 15 weeks early. Follow the trial's evidence just as the jury do, with twice-weekly reports from Daily Mail northern correspondent Liz Hull and broadcast journalist Caroline Cheetham. In this podcast, they bring you far more detail about what the jury heard, examine key moments of the trial, and conduct exclusive interviews with investigative detectives, victims, and experts. Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Contact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Leave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial') A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    42 mins
  • Baby K: Guilty Again

    Baby K: Guilty Again
    Jul 2 2024
    In this episode Caroline and Liz have the guilty verdict. It took the jury in Manchester just over three hours to decide that Lucy Letby did try to murder a tiny premature baby known only as Baby K. They believed the doctor who said he caught Lucy Letby virtually red-handed as the baby started to collapse after her breathing tube was dislodged. Follow the trial's evidence just as the jury do, with twice-weekly reports from Daily Mail northern correspondent Liz Hull and broadcast journalist Caroline Cheetham. In this podcast, they bring you far more detail about what the jury heard, examine key moments of the trial, and conduct exclusive interviews with investigative detectives, victims, and experts. Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Contact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Leave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial') A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    25 mins