Live shows in bookstores...we wish every episode could be recorded this way!

Today's episode is almost like 3 episodes rolled into one. We get to meet Arlene Kasselman (enneagram 7), founder of 7&1 Books. Then we get to hear from Jen Rogers (enneagram 8) and learn from her experiences in life, and then chase all of that with some Q&A with the audience.

Find 7&1 books and learn more about them by visiting sevenandonebooks.com

“If you haven’t done enneagram work, it’s hard to see value in people that see the world different than you do.” - Jen Rogers

PLUG TIME

• 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp

"What Is Mine To Do?"

August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc

• IEA Global Conference

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025

July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN

ieaexperience.com

• Spirituality and the Enneagram

ICU Talks in Charlotte, NC

September 5-6, 2025

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/charlotte

• Book Release Party for Letting Go, Finding You

The Micah Center in Dallas, TX

August 29, 2025

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/store/p/bookparty

TODAY's INTRO

• 40 Year Old Virgin (2005, Universal Pictures)
• Black Books (s1, e1: Channel 4)
• Pierre Novellie (Chris Ramsey's Stand Up Central)
• The Dragon Slayer Archetype (Europos)

Let's do some math.

2 + 2 - 7 = a great episode of The Enneagram Journey!

Enneagram 2, Jen Hanson, joins fellow 2, Suzanne Stabile on today's show, but we lost our 7 Joel for this one. Don't like the episode too much, it'll hurt his feelings.

• Can you have an enneagram conversation between a couple of Twos without talking about boundaries?
• The strengths of being a Two and working with children and youth.
• Parenting with the struggles of social media.
• Should one of Suzanne's spiritual practices be getting massages regularly?!
• aaaaaaaand more

"How would we measure our value in relationships if it didn't involve our responding to every Feeling with Doing?" - SS

You can find out more about Jen and all of the good going on at Northaven by visiting www.northaven.org

PLUG TIME

• 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp

"What Is Mine To Do?"

August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc

• The King Speaker Series

Enneagram Stances

June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas (Registration closes May 30!)

1pres.org/kingspeaker

• IEA Global Conference

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025

July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN

ieaexperience.com

• Spirituality and the Enneagram

ICU Talks in Charlotte, NC

September 5-6, 2025

REGISTRATION WILL BE UP SOON!

THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM

Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram

So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:

lifeinthetrinityministry.com

theenneagramjourney.com

suzannestabile.com

TODAY'S INTRO

• Between 2 Ferns (2019, Netflix)
• Pretty Woman (1990, Touchstone Pictures)
• Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius (2001, Paramount)

Russ Hudson is back on the show, and is going to blow your mind!

The show starts with a little catching up, so we get to hear about some of Russ' travels, and we look forward to IEA Experience 2025 that features both Russ and Suzanne!

• How has the Enneagram, or our understanding of the enneagram, evolved over the years?
• Russ shares their 3 rules he and Don had when writing The Wisdom of The Enneagram
• We're not just talking about the 3 Centers of Intelligence today, but also the 3 Body Centers
• Holy Ideas, enneagram and creativity, and more

"You can't get to the Holy Ideas if you don't get landed in your body and heart."

- RH

To learn more about everything Russ has going on, visit russhudson.com !

PLUG TIME

• 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp

"What Is Mine To Do?"

August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc

• The King Speaker Series

Enneagram Stances

June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas

1pres.org/kingspeaker

• IEA Global Conference

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025

July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN

ieaexperience.com

THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM

Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram

So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:

lifeinthetrinityministry.com

theenneagramjourney.com

suzannestabile.com

TODAY'S INTRO

• "Yakko's World" (Animaniacs, ep 2 - Warner Bros.)
• Jerry Seinfeld while being interviewed on the red carpet by WUSA 9