Sub Club by RevenueCat

By: David Barnard Jacob Eiting
  • Summary

  • Interviews with the experts behind the biggest apps in the App Store. Hosts David Barnard and Jacob Eiting dive deep to unlock insights, strategies, and stories that you can use to carve out your slice of the 'trillion-dollar App Store opportunity'.
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  • The Advantages of Working On an App You Care About — Christian Selig, Apollo
    Sep 18 2024

    On the podcast: The benefits of building something you personally care about, how to balance user feedback with product intuition, and why process, frameworks, and outside advice are often worth ignoring.


    Key Takeaways:

    🚀 You don’t need complex processes to build a successful product

    Building something meaningful doesn’t always require elaborate processes or formal business structures. With passion, a clear vision, and consistent execution, developers can create successful products without overcomplicating the journey.

    🔄 A strong feedback loop with your community can drive product evolution

    Engaging with an active user community creates a continuous feedback loop that helps developers iterate faster and build more relevant features. Listening to real users and balancing their input with your vision can transform a product into something that truly resonates.


    📈 Pricing strategies require experimentation, not perfection

    Initial pricing doesn’t need to be perfect. By experimenting with different price points over time, you can find a balance that works for your users. Significant price increases might not impact demand as much as you’d expect, giving you room to adjust and optimize without overthinking the starting point.

    💡 Reactive development can lead to faster, more informed decisions

    Acting quickly in response to persistent customer requests can help validate new features and insights faster. Instead of over-analyzing, shipping updates rapidly provides real-world feedback that guides better decision-making.

    💸 Plan for risks when relying on third-party dependencies

    Building heavily on a third-party API can expose you to unexpected changes in pricing or policies, potentially leading to unsustainable costs. Always evaluate the long-term stability and alignment of external platforms with your business goals to safeguard against disruption.

    About Guest

    👨‍💻 Indie iOS developer and creator of the Apollo for Reddit app.


    📱In addition to Apollo, Christian is also the creator of Juno, Pixel Pals, and a burgeoning YouTube channel.


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    Episode Highlights


    [3:33] Origin story: Christian’s time at Apple and path to indie development.


    [4:58] Positive feedback loop: How collecting user input from Reddit users helped shape Apollo.


    [8:23] Go your own way: There’s no one-size-fits-all formula for creating a successful app.


    [15:25] Passion project: Truly caring about what you’re building is one of the most important factors for success.


    [26:48] Just say no: How to decline feature requests without alienating your users.


    [30:10] Choose your own adventure: Understanding the venture-backed model versus indie development.


    [36:30] End of the line: How and why Christian made the decision to shut down Apollo.


    [47:40] Vision for the future: Christian’s post-Apollo projects: Juno, Pixel Pals, and YouTube.

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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • Marketing Your App More Efficiently with Apple Search Ads — Dilip Reddy, Search Ads Optimization
    Sep 4 2024

    On the podcast: The impact of Apple Search Ads on organic search, how to save money on brand defense, and why ROAS shouldn’t be the only thing you optimize for.

    Key Takeaways:

    📊 Optimizing brand keyword bids can protect traffic and reduce costs
    Running ads on brand keywords helps protect your traffic from competitors. By experimenting with lower bids, you can often maintain visibility while reducing costs, ensuring that you capture valuable traffic efficiently.


    💸 Long-term ROAS is key for subscription app growth
    Subscription apps should focus on the lifetime value (LTV) of users rather than just immediate ROAS. A campaign that breaks even over 365 days, rather than in the first week, can still be highly profitable if it contributes to stacking valuable subscriber cohorts that generate long-term revenue.


    🔄 Broad match keywords can uncover valuable, unexpected search terms
    Using broad match in Apple Search Ads can help discover new, high-intent keywords that might not have been initially considered. Regularly reviewing search term reports allows you to identify and capitalize on these hidden opportunities, expanding your app’s reach effectively.


    🌍 Emerging markets offer untapped Apple Search Ads potential
    As Apple expands its App Store presence in new regions, testing campaigns in countries like Brazil can lead to unexpected gains. Often, these markets have less competition and lower CPAs, making them fertile ground for scaling your app’s user base efficiently.


    🛠️ Custom product pages can enhance campaign performance by targeting specific user segments
    Leveraging custom product pages in Apple Search Ads allows you to tailor the App Store experience to specific keywords or user segments. This strategy can improve conversion rates by aligning the app's messaging and visuals with the search intent, making it especially useful during seasonal promotions or for targeting niche audiences.


    About Guest

    👨‍💻 Data engineer and founder of Search Ads Optimization.


    📢 Dilip helps app developers and marketers optimize their Apple Search Ads campaigns and increase their ROI using data-driven insights and automation.


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    Episode Highlights

    [5:35] Everybody’s changing: Trends for Apple Search Ads in 2024.


    [11:09] Running (brand) defense: Experimenting with lower bids to save money while maintaining the level of impressions you want.


    [19:16] Widening the search: How to leverage exact match and broad match keywords in Apple Search Ads.


    [29:46] ‘Tis the season: How different times of year and holidays can affect CPA and ROI for Apple Search Ads campaigns.


    [35:05] Playing the long game: Why subscription app developers should think about long-term — not short-term — return on ad spend (ROAS).


    [48:16] Tipping the scales: How to scale Apple Search Ads.


    [55:11] Custom-fit: How to implement custom product pages in your Apple Search Ads strategy.



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    1 hr
  • Understanding When to Use Web2App and How to Do It Well — Thomas Petit, Independent App Consultant
    Aug 21 2024

    On the podcast: How to find success with web2app, the value (and challenges) of “owning the transaction”, and why avoiding app store fees isn’t a great reason to experiment with web2app, but might work out anyway.


    Key Takeaways:

    💰 There’s much more to web2app than avoiding app store fees - In fact, looking at app store fees alone disregards the benefits of going via the app store, such as a substantially better conversion rate. Even if web acquisition is cheaper, those users are not worth the same to your business.

    🔍 Better advantages of web2app to focus on include… Greater flexibility with attribution, access to new audiences (via organic and paid), and support for B2B use cases, among others.

    💼 Use web2app for B2B billing - IAPs lack an elegant solution for B2B billing, whether it’s making it easy for individuals to expense purchases or offering teams a simple way to manage group billing.

    🎯 Web2App allows for greater customization of user journeys - To fully capitalize on web funnels, tailor user journeys based on their entry point — for instance, a user coming from a branded Google search shouldn’t see the same journey as one coming from TikTok.

    📈 Web2App is crucial for scaling up advertising - When ad campaigns plateau, running both web and app campaigns in parallel helps reach new audiences and convert users who might not engage with app install ads alone. This approach allows for better targeting and expands your overall reach.


    About Guest:

    👨‍💻Independent subscription app growth consultant.

    💸Thomas has worked with hundreds of clients and helped manage tens of millions of dollars in ad spend.

    👋LinkedIn

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    • Jacob Eiting
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    Episode Highlights:

    [1:48] Web2App: The advantages of capturing users on the web before sending them to your app.

    [6:51] One size doesn’t fit all: To reap the benefits of web2app, don’t just create one user experience on the web.

    [11:30] Catch-22: The trade-offs of owning your customer transactions on the web versus paying app store fees.

    [27:21] Learn by example: Who’s doing web2app well — and why it works for them.

    [37:45] To B2B or not to B2B: How web2app helps B2B apps overcome the team billing and expensing challenges of in-app purchases.

    [41:55] Owning it: Owning your transactions on the web can be a great way to reduce churn.

    [44:34] World wide(er) web: Break through marketing plateaus by running both web and app ad campaigns in parallel.

    [53:52] Cross-platformer: A web2app flow can help you go beyond the App Store and Google Play (to Roku, Apple TV, or the Amazon Appstore) to reach a wider audience.

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    1 hr and 7 mins

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