Episodes

  • Deconstruction Part 1 - What We Were Handed

    Deconstruction Part 1 - What We Were Handed
    Jun 15 2025
    Deconstruction Part 1 - What We Were Handed

    Sarah and Corinne look back on the stories from their early years in Christianity, before the Willow Creek and Exodus Road debacles. From purity rings to liturgy, youth groups to evangelical t-shirts, their sincerity and commitment were everything the Christian church hopes for in a believer.

    To connect with Sarah or Corinne, find them on Instagram:
    @heysarahcarter @thesaltyshark @sarahandcorinne

    For more information about Spiritual Pyro, visit www.spiritualpyro.com.
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    44 mins
  • Telling Stories

    Telling Stories
    Jun 8 2025
    Ep. 6 Telling Stories

    So far, Sarah and Corinne have shared some of the hardest stories of their lives. In this episode, they share some of the easier, beautiful ones and the nuggets of insight that accompanied them. Pull up around this bonfire and join in the laughter and wonder that come when wise women share life in story.


    To connect with Sarah or Corinne, find them on Instagram:
    @heysarahcarter @thesaltyshark @sarahandcorinne

    For more information about Spiritual Pyro, visit www.spiritualpyro.com.
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    47 mins
  • Bonfires on the Bluff

    Bonfires on the Bluff
    Jun 1 2025
    S1E5: Bonfires on the Bluff

    Sarah and Corinne are grateful for the outpouring of feedback from you, letting them know how their experiences are feeding into your own as we all live into through the cycles of life and healing in whatever ways are available to us. In this episode, they discuss various resources that have given insight along the way, including IFS-based therapy (Internal Family Systems) and the books No Bad Parts : Healing Trauma and Restoring Wholeness with the Internal Family Systems Model by Richard C. Schwartz, When the Body Says No: Exporing the Stress-Disease Connection by Gabor Mate, M.D., and The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma by Bessel A. van der Kolk, M.D., as well as movies like Young Woman and the Sea and Inside-Out 2 and even Taylor Swift's music video for "Look What You Made Me Do." They also explore the concepts of societal barriers toward women's health and wholeness, the power inherent in getting healthy, and consider aloud whether sacrificing ourselves for everyone else truly is the best way to be a loving human.   

    To connect with Sarah or Corinne, find them on Instagram:
    @heysarahcarter @thesaltyshark @sarahandcorinne

    For more information about Spiritual Pyro, visit www.spiritualpyro.com.
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    46 mins
  • The Damn Yellow Notebook

    The Damn Yellow Notebook
    May 25 2025
    S1E4: The Damn Yellow Notebook

    Healing isn’t a grand finale — it’s a thousand tiny rebellions.

    This week, Sarah and Corinne share the fires they lit along the way: voice memos and therapy sessions, a yellow notebook full of unfiltered truth, and the forgotten joy of playing again after years of survival mode.

    This isn’t a blueprint. It’s a conversation around the fire — tender, true, sometimes messy, and full of warmth. If you’re somewhere in the middle of your own healing process, they’re right there with you.

    Strike a match, settle in, and join them around the fire.

    To connect with Sarah or Corinne, find them on Instagram:
    @heysarahcarter @thesaltyshark @sarahandcorinne

    For more information about Spiritual Pyro, visit www.spiritualpyro.com.
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    41 mins
  • That Time We Looked for a Lawyer and Found a Publisher (or, This is How It Works, Part II)

    That Time We Looked for a Lawyer and Found a Publisher (or, This is How It Works, Part II)
    May 18 2025
    S1E3: On the heels of their devastating publishing contract termination, Sarah and Corinne realize they need to secure legal representation before making any additional decisions about their book manuscript. In the process, they reconnect with someone from their former publishing house and, suddenly, the skies are full of us.

    To connect with Sarah or Corinne, find them on Instagram:
    @heysarahcarter @thesaltyshark @sarahandcorinne

    For more information about Spiritual Pyro, visit www.spiritualpyro.com.
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    1 hr and 25 mins
  • That Time Our Publisher Broke Up With Us Via a YouTube Video (or, This is How It Works, Part I)

    That Time Our Publisher Broke Up With Us Via a YouTube Video (or, This is How It Works, Part I)
    May 11 2025
    S1E2: That Time Our Publisher Broke Up With Us Via a YouTube Video (or, This is How It Works, Part I)

    Fast forwarding from the stories shared in Episode 1, we now join Sarah and Corinne at the point in their journeys when they realized they were being inspired to write a book together. The act of doing so ushered in a sense of freedom and return to self unlike anything they'd known since the devastating experiences discussed in the previous episode. Leaders of corrupt systems aren't big fans of having their misdeeds memorialized for all time between the covers of a book, though. Here in Episode 2, Sarah and Corinne share the first part of their publishing experience and how it, too, called Ruin back into their journeys.

    To connect with Sarah or Corinne, find them on Instagram:
    @heysarahcarter @thesaltyshark @sarahandcorinne

    For more information about Spiritual Pyro, visit www.spiritualpyro.com.
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    46 mins
  • An Interim Message

    An Interim Message
    May 4 2025
    This episode features a message from the head of the 1C Story Network regarding the production of Spiritual Pyro and the ongoing work toward its next chapter.

    To connect with Sarah or Corinne, find them on Instagram:
    @heysarahcarter @thesaltyshark @sarahandcorinne

    For more information about Spiritual Pyro, visit www.spiritualpyro.com.
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    3 mins
  • What the Hell Happened?

    What the Hell Happened?
    Apr 27 2025
    S1E1: What The Hell Happened

    You are about to hear the personal experiences of Sarah Carter and Corinne Shark, told by them, in their own words. Sarah's husband is the former lead teaching pastor of Willow Creek Community Church in Illinois. At the time of his service, more than 25k congregants gathered at Willow Creek each weekend to worship. In 2018, multiple women came forward to assert that the founding pastor of Willow Creek had been engaging in sexual misconduct for decades. The fallout of this hit many lives, including Sarah’s. Corinne's husband is a former lead investigator for The Exodus Road, a non-profit whose website states they are “on the front lines of the fight to end human trafficking.” When the Sharks encountered a culture of inappropriate sexual behavior by organization leadership in 2017, they attempted to address it internally. They paid dearly for that act.

    This is Sarah's story. This is Corinne's story. Let the women speak.

    To connect with Sarah or Corinne, find them on Instagram:
    @heysarahcarter @thesaltyshark @sarahandcorinne

    For more information about Spiritual Pyro, visit www.spiritualpyro.com.

    TRIGGER WARNINGS: sexual assault, sexual violence
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    1 hr and 13 mins