• Ep.6.20 Pre-Framing: How Story Shapes Our Experience
    Jul 9 2025

    In this episode, Katie Churchman talks with CRR Global faculty member Stephen Burke about the importance of pre-framing. Pre-framing involves considering the lens through which we look before stepping into a conversation, meeting, or project. In this conversation, we explore how pre-framing can help systems workers and their clients navigate conflict, change, and uncertainty. Whether we are delivering difficult news or providing feedback, how might the way we frame the conversation help us to positively influence the emotional field.

    What you’ll gain from this episode:

    • Awareness around the power and importance of pre-framing in coaching
    • Strategies for shifting the lenses we look through
    • An understanding of the impact of unconscious energy
    • Tools for consciously thinking about how you want to ‘BE’ in any given situation
    • Appreciation of the importance of metaskills and conscious and intentional impact


    Stephen Burke is a teaching faculty member for CRR Global’s Organization and Relationship Systems Coaching (ORSC) training. He combines deep corporate experience, knowledge of startup and innovation processes, and extensive global executive and team coaching and leadership development experience to develop leaders and startup teams globally. An Aerospace Engineer who also holds a master’s degree in Mindfulness studies and holds the ICFs PCC and ACTC certifications. British by birth, German by naturalization and a US permanent resident, Stephen considers himself a citizen of the world and has worked globally.

    For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

    We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

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    38 mins
  • Ep.6.19 Energy Impact Part 3: Directing Positive Energy Into the World
    Jun 25 2025

    Energy Impact Part 3: Directing positive energy into the world

    What you’ll gain from this episode:

    • How to learn how to access different energies within ourselves that we’d like to experience more in the world.
    • The power of broadcasting energy
    • Ways to attune to the body’s intelligence and incorporate this wisdom into coaching.
    • How energy awareness allows us to access the essence of the three levels of reality.
    • The importance of attending to energetic fields, using sounds, smell, and movement.

    Click here to listen to Part 1: The Importance of Energy Awareness in Systems Coaching and Part 2: Navigating and Managing Other People's Energy.


    Molly Flanagan has over 18 years of experience as a coach, facilitator, and organizational culture expert, bringing a unique blend of professional expertise and deep holistic practices to her work. Her global perspective as a United Nations international civil servant has shaped her approach, guiding clients through complex transitions with compassion, clarity, and vision. At the heart of her mission is the cultivation of intimacy, embodiment, and flourishing within human systems, while building a more vibrant, just future for all. Molly’s clients are purpose-driven leaders and organizations ready to expand their impact and redesign their lives and workplaces with courage, creativity, and care.

    For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

    We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

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    35 mins
  • Ep.6.18 Energy Interaction Part 2: Navigating and Managing Other People’s Energy
    Jun 11 2025

    Energy Interaction Part 2: Navigating and managing other people’s energy

    What you’ll gain from this episode:

    • Tips for creating more energy hygiene for yourself and your relationships.
    • An understanding of energy dissonance and coherence in our relationships.
    • Ways to bring more energy harmonization into your life
    • The importance of revealing the emotional field to a system
    • The power of rituals to clear our energy between meetings.

    Click here to listen to Part 1: The Importance of Energy Awareness in Systems Coaching.

    Molly Flanagan has over 18 years of experience as a coach, facilitator, and organizational culture expert, bringing a unique blend of professional expertise and deep holistic practices to her work. Her global perspective as a United Nations international civil servant has shaped her approach, guiding clients through complex transitions with compassion, clarity, and vision. At the heart of her mission is the cultivation of intimacy, embodiment, and flourishing within human systems, while building a more vibrant, just future for all. Molly’s clients are purpose-driven leaders and organizations ready to expand their impact and redesign their lives and workplaces with courage, creativity, and care.

    For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

    We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

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    41 mins
  • Ep.6.17 Energy Awareness Part 1: The Importance of Energy Awareness in Systems Coaching
    May 28 2025

    What you’ll gain from this episode:

    • An understanding of why energy awareness is essential in Relationship work.
    • Strategies for tuning into energy, in yourself, and with others
    • Awareness of why being aware of your energy is essential as a coach
    • Using energy to create a certain impact
    • An awareness of the power of energy to shift emotional fields.


    Molly Flanagan has over 18 years of experience as a coach, facilitator, and organizational culture expert, bringing a unique blend of professional expertise and deep holistic practices to her work. Her global perspective as a United Nations international civil servant has shaped her approach, guiding clients through complex transitions with compassion, clarity, and vision. At the heart of her mission is the cultivation of intimacy, embodiment, and flourishing within human systems, while building a more vibrant, just future for all. Molly’s clients are purpose-driven leaders and organizations ready to expand their impact and redesign their lives and workplaces with courage, creativity, and care.

    For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

    We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

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    35 mins
  • Ep.6.16 The Reflective Practitioner Part 3: Reimagining Systems Through the Power of Reflective Practice
    May 7 2025

    What you’ll gain from this episode:

    • An understanding of how to use reflective practice to update and reimagine the stories we tell ourselves
    • An awareness of reflective practice as a powerful ally for crossing edges.
    • Insight into how reflective practice can create space within our internal landscape.
    • Using reflective practice as a tool for understanding the themes and patterns of our lives.
    • Vulnerable examples from Alfred about how reflective practice has helped him to build relationship with different parts of himself.


    Alfred De Pew is a cultural worker, writer, painter and process facilitator who has taught a the Universities of Vermont & New Hampshire, the Maine Arts college, and Haystack Mountain School of Crafts. His writing workshops have been sponsored by The Maine Writers and Publishers Alliance and various community programs throughout the United States and Canada. He served for several years on the faculty of CRR Global as an individual supervisor, certification cohort leader, front of room leader and director of supervision. He lives in Vancouver BC where he offers spiritual accompaniment, astrological consultation, energy work, support for community leader, clergy, writers, artists, intuitive and healing arts practitioners.

    For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

    We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

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    32 mins
  • Ep.6.15 The Reflective Practitioner Part 2: Exploring Deep Listening Through Reflective Practice
    Apr 23 2025

    What you’ll gain from this episode:

    • The significance of unfolding in the process of reflective practice.
    • An understanding of the importance of slowing down and feeling into the body in reflective practice.
    • Ways to enlist the help of the observer, as opposed to blocking them through interpretation and judgement.
    • Techniques for deepening signals that show up in reflective practice so that we can amplify and understand them more deeply.
    • Examples from Alfred and Katie that demonstrate how inner work can impact our outer world.


    Alfred De Pew is a cultural worker, writer, painter and process facilitator who has taught a the Universities of Vermont & New Hampshire, the Maine Arts college, and Haystack Mountain School of Crafts. His writing workshops have been sponsored by The Maine Writers and Publishers Alliance and various community programs throughout the United States and Canada. He served for several years on the faculty of CRR Global as an individual supervisor, certification cohort leader, front of room leader and director of supervision. He lives in Vancouver BC where he offers spiritual accompaniment, astrological consultation, energy work, support for community leader, clergy, writers, artists, intuitive and healing arts practitioners.

    For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

    We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

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    34 mins
  • Ep.6.14 The Reflective Practitioner Part 1: The Foundations of Reflective Practice
    Apr 9 2025

    What you’ll gain from this episode:

    • An insight into the power of reflective practice as a tool for understanding ourselves better in relationship to the world.
    • Awareness of how to build reflective practice into your life through journalling, free-writing and drawing.
    • Ways to allow our authentic voice to emerge in reflective practice, without editing it out or blocking.
    • Techniques that will help you to sit in the process rather than focus on the output or destination.
    • Colourful examples from Alfred about the influential impact of journaling in his life as a teacher, coach and mentor.


    Alfred De Pew is a cultural worker, writer, painter and process facilitator who has taught a the Universities of Vermont & New Hampshire, the Maine Arts college, and Haystack Mountain School of Crafts. His writing workshops have been sponsored by The Maine Writers and Publishers Alliance and various community programs throughout the United States and Canada. He served for several years on the faculty of CRR Global as an individual supervisor, certification cohort leader, front of room leader and director of supervision. He lives in Vancouver BC where he offers spiritual accompaniment, astrological consultation, energy work, support for community leader, clergy, writers, artists, intuitive and healing arts practitioners.

    For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

    We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

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    39 mins
  • 6.13 What Story is Your Team Telling?
    Mar 26 2025

    Is the story you're telling expansive or limiting? In this episode of the Relationship Matters podcast, Kiki Kesseler and host Katie Churchman discuss the importance of the narrative in coaching. Kiki, a CRR Global faculty member with 20 years of experiences, emphasizes how stories shape our reality and agency. She shares recollections that highlight the need for conscious and intentional storytelling.

    What you’ll gain from this episode:

    1. Greater awareness of the power of storytelling in everyday life

    2. An understanding of stories as lenses we look through that shape our lives

    3. Tools for changing or updating unhelpful or outdated narratives

    4. How to empower ourselves and others by shifting the narrative

    5. Vulnerable examples from Kiki and Katie about some of the stories they have worked with in their personal lives.


    Kiki Kesseler is a CRR Global faculty member for both courses and the certification programme. Kiki focuses on people development and brings 20+ years of experience in cultural diversity, coaching, training, and team management across various industries, with corporate roles in Sales & Marketing, Business Development, and Training. She specializes in team development, conflict resolution, leadership skills, and systemic coaching. Originally from The Netherlands, she speaks Dutch, English, and German. Her cross-cultural experience was established through living in Austria, the United States, Germany and the UAE over the past 18 years, working within culturally diverse environments, organizations and teams.

    For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

    We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

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    39 mins