She’s a winner, baby! T.S. Madison is joined by the legendary Rupaul’s Drag Race Season 13 winner… it’s Symone!

“It’s been a minute!” Madison and Symone start off the episode catching up on their love lives and dishing about the astrological science of good sex.

And the sorcery doesn’t end there! “I only work in one frequency, that’s goddess–” Madison is embracing the witchcraft allegations and says you should, too– how else are you going to achieve your dreams? Madison and Symone command the universe to give you your gots, discuss the power of "I am," and the fact that we queer people are all answers to a prayer. It’s all about the Word, hunny!

“There are many stars in the sky, and then there’s the sun…” Symone's season of "Drag Race" was also the first that Madison appeared as a judge on the show. The pair talk about their own experiences of Season 13 from opposite sides of the judge’s panel, how Rupaul’s changed their lives AND the world we know.

Life has it’s ups and downs– something this Auntie & Niece duo know very well. But Madison reminds Symone– and all of us– that it’s not about where you start, it’s where you’re going. Grab your tissues for this one, y’all.

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TS Madison welcomes Drew Afualo to Outlaws—TikTok’s undisputed roast queen, New York Times best-selling author of "Loud" (the first Samoan woman to ever make that list—clock it!!!), Forbes 30 Under 30 Creator & Social Media cover star, and host of not one but two hit podcasts: "The Comment Section" and "Two Idiot Girls." After getting fired from the NFL, Drew picked up her phone and built a following 9 million strong, proving definitively that there is in fact an audience who, like her, absolutely does not f*ck with racism, homophobia, transphobia, or misogynistic men with egos as fragile as their hairlines—who would’ve thought?!

Together, Maddie and Drew are holding men’s nuts to the fire. They talk Samoan matriarchy, “meat checks,” TERFs, what it’s like to be told “you’re prettier in person,” and the Uber driver who remembered Drew's voice from the last time she was in his car and told a man to go f*ck himself. Also, they reflect on why they’ll never be “above” replying to hateful comments, no matter how high the star soars. Drew gives Maddie her flowers, and Maddie is certain she’s just met her long-lost twin. Hold up—have you started the episode yet?? What are you waiting for?! It’s time for an hour of loud, live, and in color SISTERHOOD.

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TS Madison is kicking off Pride Month with real talk and revelations in this special episode with none other than Representative Jasmine Crockett. Maddie has questions and SHE WANTS ANSWERS! And as seemingly one of the only Dems raising their voice, the Congresswoman from Texas is here to guide us.

We all know that Maddie doesn’t sugarcoat it, and neither does Representative Crockett – she’s always gonna give it to you plain. They talk about the haters, the hypocrites, and the healing we all need. And another thing – how did we get to this “oops” moment, where people are surprised by what’s going down? The "Find Out Phase" is in full effect, but we also get into how we can fix things and the question on everyone's minds: "Will we be okay?" Rep. Crockett gives us the hope we need. It's about to be Losing Season for the Haters!

Let us know what you think! Give us a rate/review/subscribe and stay tuned for more – this is only our fourth episode. "Outlaws" is truly just getting started!

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