Night Owls

By: John Ellis and Joe Klein
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  • Summary

  • Joe Klein and John Ellis on what's happening and what happens next. Joe Klein is the author of seven books and "Sanity Clause," a Substack newsletter. John Ellis is the founder and editor of two Substack newsletters — News Items and Political News Items. The two friends have covered American politics for a combined 95 years.
    2023
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Political Science
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Episodes
  • Episode 53 (with David Barboza Part 4)

    Episode 53 (with David Barboza Part 4)
    Jan 9 2025

    Episode Four: A dream assignment: David moves to Shanghai and begins covering China. He goes from "Sock City" to Apple, to the extraordinary changes in China's economy, politics and culture. The final episode covers everything from Wuhan to Taiwan, fentanyl to semiconductors, quantum computing to cyberhacking, to Xi's political standing and how much (and how many of) China's most successful people dislike and distrust Xi.

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    1 hr and 1 min
  • Episode 52 (with David Barboza Part 3)

    Episode 52 (with David Barboza Part 3)
    Jan 9 2025

    Episode Three: The not-a-partnership partnership of one of the world's greatest entrepreneurs and one of the world's richest men is a case study in modern China. David describes the "partnership" that became the subject of an extraordinary report co-produced by The New York Times and David's news magazine, The Wire China.
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    17 mins
  • Episode 51 (with David Barboza Part 2)

    Episode 51 (with David Barboza Part 2)
    Jan 8 2025

    Episode Two: We begin our conversation with David about China and whether the "Thucydides Trap" can be avoided.
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    34 mins

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