Episodes

  • #61 Jon Devore: triumph, tragedy and team work
    Jan 8 2025

    In this episode, Laurent sits down with Jon Devore. Jon is a professional skydiving stuntman, aerial stunt coordinator, and captain of the Red Bull Air Force team. This episode is rich with insights and full of contrast. From his beginnings as an educator, to pioneering freeflying, to doubling as Johnny Utah in the Point Break remake - Jon shares how teamwork, and dedicated training were vital to his accomplishments. Jon also discusses the delicate balance of humility and excellence, and how crucial both are to his success and the sport as a whole. In contrast to his many amazing accomplishments, Jon shares some very personal stories such as the loss his teammate Eli Thompson, his recent near-fatal speed flying accident, and the immense physical and mental hurdles he had to overcome and still deals with daily. Finally, John gives us a glimpse into the future of the Red Bull Air Force and the rigorous process of integrating a new team member. Our conversation offers a deep dive into the mind of one of air sports' most accomplished figures.

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    For more info visit exitpointpodcast.com Host: Laurent Frat Sound: Mark Stockwell Music credit: Staccato Strings by Andreas Beats

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    1 hr and 57 mins
  • #60 Anne Helliwell: innovation, pioneering, BASE jumping legend
    Dec 27 2024

    In this episode, host Matt Blank pulls over with Anne Helliwell to get a look into the renaissance era of BASE jumping. An integral part of creating BASE specific equipment, Anne pioneered and invented a substantial portion of the techniques and technology BASE jumpers use today. She’s been an active jumper for close to four decades, leading and participating in jumps all over the world. We touch on everything from the innovation process for the first BASE specific equipment, to what it was like for her to learn how to BASE jump when they were still inventing the rules. By all accounts, Anne is a living legend of the sport who’s narrative gives helpful context for anyone who is pursuing BASE jumping.

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    1 hr and 35 mins
  • #59 Tomic Kluzniak: navigating training, challenging limits, and flying with intention
    Dec 11 2024

    In this episode, Laurent sits down with Tomic, an expert wingsuit BASE jumper, skydiving and tunnel coach. They cover his journey, strategies, and philosophies. Tomic shares his approach to both teaching and executing technical jumps, the importance of mindset, and how he combines intense training, and athletic preparation with creative expression. He also reflects on his acceptance of the inherent risks of being at the sharp end of the world's most dangerous sport.

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    For more info visit exitpointpodcast.com Host: Laurent Frat Sound: Mark Stockwell Music credit: Staccato Strings by Andreas Beats

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    1 hr and 22 mins
  • #58 Moab Joe: self-destruction to chasing self-actualization through flying
    Dec 2 2024

    In this episode Matt Blank sits down with Joe Lohmuller in his home in Moab, Utah to talk about Joe’s journey from a life of self-destruction to one seeking self-actualization. This episode covers everything from substance abuse to terrain flying tactics as we dive into Joe’s progression toward the cutting-edge of wingsuit BASE jumping. Joe’s perspective and story not only provide valuable insights for anyone considering risking their life to fly today’s epic alpine lines, but also provides a clear window into understanding how and why a healthy human engages in such a risky practice.

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    For more info visit exitpointpodcast.com Producers: Laurent Frat, Mark Stockwell, Matt Blank Host: Matt Blank Sound: Mark Stockwell Music credit: Staccato Strings by Andreas Beats

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    1 hr and 32 mins
  • #57 Peter Salzmann: Wingsuit Foil innovation, performance mindset, balancing risk & rewards
    Nov 21 2024

    In #57 Laurent Frat sits down with Peter Salzmann, an Austrian wingsuit pilot who recently set world records in BASE jumping with his innovative wingsuit foil. They cover Peter's career as a paragliding instructor, stuntman, and professional wingsuit pilot. Peter shares his early beginnings from jumping off the roof of his house as a child to what it feels like to fly the foil. Some highlights are their discussion about the importance of balancing risk with the exhilarating freedom of BASE, wingsuit start performance, and the technical details of his record-breaking flight that spanned nearly six minutes over 12.5 kilometers. Whether you're a seasoned BASE jumper or just curious about innovation in extreme sports, this episode offers valuable insights into the mind and methods of one of the world's top action adventure athlete.

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    For more info visit exitpointpodcast.com Producers: Laurent Frat, Matt Blank, Mark Stockwell Host: Laurent Frat Music credit: Staccato Strings by Andreas Beats

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    1 hr and 53 mins
  • #56 Jeff Shapiro: recovering a fallen friend, reflecting on loss, and reshaping perspectives
    Oct 29 2024

    Laurent sits down with Jeff Shapiro to share the profoundly personal and emotional experience of leading a fatality recovery from a remote wingsuit accident. Jeff provides a vivid recount of the technical challenges and emotional weight faced bringing the body of Mat Kenney home, while reflecting on the deep bonds within the BASE jumping community. Their conversation explores the balance between ambition and caution, the importance of camaraderie, and how personal adversities reshape perspectives in high-risk sports. This episode offers a poignant insight into human resilience and the powerful connections formed through shared intense experiences.

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    For more info visit exitpointpodcast.com Producers: Laurent Frat, Mark Stockwell, Matt Blank Host: Laurent Frat Sound: Mark Stockwell Music credit: Staccato Strings by Andreas Beats

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    1 hr and 45 mins
  • #55 David Laffargue: state of BASE education, finding balance, and respecting the sport
    Oct 15 2024

    In this episode of Exit Point, Laurent sits down with David Laffargue. Their conversation goes unfiltered as they have a gritty, candid exchange that attempts to strip away some of the unspoken elements of greed to reveal the sport’s raw truths. They tackle everything from the temptations of shortcuts in training to redefining ‘cool’ by prioritizing safety and longevity. Whether you’re a seasoned jumper or just BASE curious, this episode will have you nodding in agreement or seething with outrage. Either way, this episode invites you to challenge your personal risk reward balance, while reminding you that the best jump is always your next.

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    1 hr and 26 mins
  • #54 Gavin McClurg: mentorship, flow and navigating intermediate syndrome
    Sep 24 2024

    In this episode, hosts Laurent Frat and Matt Blank step outside the realm of BASE jumping to gain valuable insights from Gavin McClurg, the host of Cloudbase Mayhem and a celebrated figure in the paragliding world. Gavin, a former Red Bull X-Alps pilot and National Geographic Adventurer of the Year, shares his journey from ski racing to paragliding, offering lessons that resonate across high-risk sports. The discussion covers the importance of SIV training, the dangers of intermediate syndrome, and the crucial role of mentorship in extreme sports. Gavin also delves into maintaining passion and sustainability in high-risk activities and the value of community support.

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    For more info visit exitpointpodcast.com Producers: Laurent Frat, Matt Blank, Mark Stockwell Host: Matt Blank Sound mixing: Mark Stockwell Music credit: Staccato Strings by Andreas Beats

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    1 hr and 47 mins