Mat speaks with Joel from the Blue Project, exploring the intersection of art, technology, and personal growth.

They discuss their backgrounds in graffiti and street art, and the impact of family expectations on their creative journeys

They also explore the role of pain as a catalyst for change and the importance of embracing creativity in a rapidly evolving technological landscape. In this conversation, the speaker shares their journey through mental health challenges, resilience, and the transformative power of art.

They discuss the importance of facing pain, the non-linear nature of recovery, and the impact of therapy methods like Cognitive Behavioural Therapy. The conversation also touches on personal loss and the drive to advocate for mental health awareness through art, culminating in a documentary that explores modern masculinity and societal issues.

In this conversation, Joel and Mat explore themes such as men's identity, societal shifts, personal responsibility, and the impact of technology on mental health. He emphasises the importance of finding balance in relationships and the rising suicide rates among men, attributing these issues to a loss of identity and societal pressures.

The speaker advocates for action over mere awareness in mental health discussions and highlights the need for individuals to find their purpose and take responsibility for their lives.

Thank you for listening in.

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